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Fucking Doctors...
« on: November 05, 2012, 02:02:58 PM »
So as of today I've been off of Topomax for almost 2 weeks and in constant pain for almost 4 weeks. My Neurologist seem clueless as to what is going on, or what I should do....despite being the one that put me on the shit and then yanked me off of it without a taper. Every joint in my body just about is aching and inflamed. I've had all the arthritis tests done, all negative...my Primary Care Doctor is scratching his head because he isn't sure whats going and the fucking Neurologist is being less than helpful. Also, thanks to my past issues, the only thing I can get for pain is prescription strength Aleve and Motrin...woohoo. So I can barely walk, get out bed, dress myself or drive, but I'm just supposed to "deal with it". So much bullshit. Why do we pay these people so much when they barely give a shit and won't even try to fix problems they caused?
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Re: Fucking Doctors...
« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2012, 02:42:33 PM »
You're not kidding there. a solid 80% of my dad's problems are a result of doctors fucking around instead of coming up with a solution.

For example, he was on Oxy in the late 90's/early 00's. Became addicted. Tried to get off it because he knew what it was doing to him, started having major withdrawals and hallucinations and shit, went to rehab where he was treated like a criminal offender - full cavity searched against a concrete wall and left to sit in rooms by himself for hours while they dicked around with paperwork and shit. He had nightmares for weeks after coming home and he still can't stand to be alone.

Fast foward to this year. He has a morphine pump and is on medicinal marijuana, but as you know, you build a tolerance to pretty much anything, so occasionally they have to ween him off the morphine and put him on something else (starts with a D.. don't remember the name) until his tolerance comes back down, then put him on morphine again.

Well, my dad had been complaining that his pain was getting worse, that the morphine just wasn't doing it anymore and the D stuff wasn't helping either. After several doctors visits, what do they do?

Put him on OXYCONTIN.

Two days of use and my dad goes back in and basically reads them the riot act telling them that he CANNOT be on oxy, he's an addict and he went through literal hell to get off of it.

Doctor says "Oh, well, we'll put you back on morphine and D but we'll increase your doses back to their normal levels."

wat

They had lowered his doses without telling him, so they could see if they could keep him on that lower dosage, and their first thought when it wasn't working was to prescribe him fucking oxy again.
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Re: Fucking Doctors...
« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2012, 03:50:21 PM »
Yeah, and even though my Primary Care Doctor is a family friend and all....because of the place I went to rehab at being part of their hospital system, if he gave me ANYTHING for the pain from all this shit, he runs the risk of the hospital turning him in to the medical board and DEA for prescribing to an addict. I asked about how all that works because this shit is rapidly getting unbearable, I'm eating a few thousand milligrams of Naproxen a day which can't be good for my GI tract, and he said I would have to go through a Pain Management Doctor. FUCK THAT, I guess I'm just going to suffer because my PCP is the only person I trust to monitor and prescribe stuff like that to me in a responsible manner. All pain doctors do is sling pills at you so they can get their kick backs. So as of right now I'm loaded up on Toradol, and a Steroid to try and bring the swelling down and I'm running a fever. And the best part is....my PCP is handing me off to a Rheumatologist because he has no idea how else to treat my pain and very visible joint inflammation. Yeefuckinghaw.
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« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2012, 06:11:28 PM »
If he can't be on Oxy he shouldn't be on Morph... it's all an opiate. The addiction is the same, the withdrawals are the same.

I tapered for the first time and it's amazing. I forget to take my 7s unless I'm legit sitting around.


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Re: Fucking Doctors...
« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2012, 07:08:07 PM »
If he can't be on Oxy he shouldn't be on Morph... it's all an opiate. The addiction is the same, the withdrawals are the same.
So he should sit around in pain all the time? There is a huge difference between medical dependence and addiction, and Nick's Dad's situation sounds like a dependence that got warped into an "addiction" by rehab people or other medical folks. Some people legit have 0 quality of life without some kind of pain treatment, and Morphine is way less Euphoric than Oxy, not to mention a Pump is a much more controlled situation than a bottle of pills. I just don't understand why they would jerk him around like that since opiate cross tolerance happens with all of them...so bouncing from Morphine to Demerol to Oxy is still going to build tolerance. Pain Doctors are just drug dealers with an MD so they are sketchy as fuck and you have to watch them like a hawk. I hardly ever bothered to taper off of LTs because its just a couple days of feeling shitty then you're fine. Only thing I really made sure to taper on was Poppy Tea.
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Re: Fucking Doctors...
« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2012, 01:45:59 AM »
I didn't say he should sit around in pain all the time; I'm just surprised they can't find something else that works and they would rather torture him with the demoral/oxy/morphine cycle. Demoral is nasty... that's what they gave me after my accident. Sometimes I think they store all this data somewhere and they're using it one day for something we're not going to like.


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Re: Fucking Doctors...
« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2012, 02:24:47 AM »
Well for some people, opiates are the only way they can have any quality of life unfortunately. A morphine pump is a pretty stable, easy to control properly deal, which makes me think they were probably giving him Diluadid or Oxy for break through pain...which with a properly dosed pump you really shouldn't be having. My best friend FUCKED his back up a couple years ago and his doctor had him on Fent patches, because its constant, easy to control and the abuse potential is pretty low if you aren't opening the patches up and smoking/eating the gel inside. They are making so cool ass advances with neural stimulator implants which hopefully will provide drug free pain management to people one day.

IV demerol is great, thats what they gave me when I broke my back, the pill form (meperdine is the generic) is pretty worthless for abusing unless you're willing to shoot or plug it :lol:
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Re: Fucking Doctors...
« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2012, 03:19:00 AM »
Yeah, I had the IV demoral. I also had an IV full of morphine at one point, which was like the world's most warm, fuzzy rollercoaster. I remember grabbing my best friend right before I passed out and telling her to never let them give me morphine again. :lol:

 Diluadid is what my ex was addicted to.

 I can't wait for the day where all they have to do is take a little needle to a nerve cluster and you have no more issues.
 
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« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2012, 07:40:16 AM »
If they fix you, you will stop coming to them.  They will stop getting paid.
You are steady income.
You cain't buy it that way...

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« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2012, 07:42:19 AM »

For example, he was on Oxy in the late 90's/early 00's. Became addicted. Tried to get off it because he knew what it was doing to him, started having major withdrawals and hallucinations and shit, went to rehab where he was treated like a criminal offender - full cavity searched against a concrete wall and left to sit in rooms by himself for hours while they dicked around with paperwork and shit. He had nightmares for weeks after coming home and he still can't stand to be alone.


Yeah, I rarely take pain killers from the doctor because of fear of addiction really.  The only time I've ever taken more than one or two pain killers was when I had hurt my lower back.  Due to the nature of that injury, it was a constant pain, not like my ankle or ribs.  I couldn't sleep, or get comfortable.

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Re: Fucking Doctors...
« Reply #10 on: November 06, 2012, 10:41:26 AM »
Yeah that's how I feel right now, 4 hours sleep is the best I can hope for, and this morning when I got up getting to the toilet 10 feet from my bed felt like a death march, took me another couple hours laying in bed to even contemplate making a run to the living room. But yeah, all I have is Aleve because I was/am a drug addict. It fucking sucks. If my ankles, knees and hips don't start feeling better soon I don't know how I'm going to get around, and joy of joys my apartment is on the second floor :lol:
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Re: Fucking Doctors...
« Reply #11 on: November 06, 2012, 11:03:23 AM »
That's why I wish veterinarians were allowed to work on humans.

I mean, they've already studied almost every OTHER species, what's one more to add to their expertise?

Also, their patients can't tell them how they feel yet they still figure it out somehow.

And in the end if you can't afford your bill they would give you the option to put you to sleep.
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Re: Fucking Doctors...
« Reply #12 on: November 06, 2012, 11:18:56 AM »
I just want a couple hours without pain. I don't think that's a lot to ask. But my Mom does, and refuses to take me to the ER because "you just want drugs". Yes, I do want drugs, but I don't want a bottle of pills I just want a fucking needle in my ass to give me a couple hours of relief.
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« Reply #13 on: November 06, 2012, 11:42:08 AM »
Dude, that's harsh :lol: You're not asking for pills.


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« Reply #14 on: November 06, 2012, 12:16:27 PM »
Yeah, she's fucking insane about that shit, she caused a scene in the ER the other night because they gave me a shot of Dilaudid in my bicep to help break a migraine once. Thankfully my Dad was like woman shut up.
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« Reply #15 on: November 06, 2012, 01:34:57 PM »
Okay, WHAT is Kratom? I'm thinking about trying some, seems like a poppy-type of tea (I know it isn't, that's just what it seems like), and everyone says it's awesome with the PAWS. But, all the websites look hella fake.


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Re: Fucking Doctors...
« Reply #16 on: November 06, 2012, 05:38:41 PM »
I'm still amazed how quick your docs throw drugs around!

99% of docs here will give you a script for some +25% strength (over OTC stuff) pain killers and thats about it.

Hell, even remission patients struggle to get a script for morpheine patches.


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« Reply #17 on: November 06, 2012, 06:10:03 PM »
Thekratomking.com is the best one out there, their extracts are good. I experimented with Kratom as a natural painkiller for my head aches because its high in Triptymin or whatever it is they distill Triptans from. It makes me nice and numb to most pain. Recreationally it's worthless to me because 1.) I ain't trying' to get high and 2.) it's expensive.
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Re: Fucking Doctors...
« Reply #18 on: November 07, 2012, 12:15:38 PM »
Jesus. The past 24 hours for me have been so ramped that i have zero wd.  I forgot what it was like to operate like I'm playing hot potato!

I wish and hope they find something that will help you soon dude. When a troll feels pain, all trolls feel pain


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Re: Fucking Doctors...
« Reply #19 on: November 07, 2012, 12:37:42 PM »
I got in to a Rheumatologist yesterday thanks to my parents being friends with like everybody in town, they had a friend that specializes in that and when my Mom called and explained everything he was like bring him right in. He thinks its a reactionary arthritic conditions with an 80% chance of going away or it could be a Neuropathic reaction connected to the existing Neuropathy I have in my mass of scar tissue on my left side. He put me on a heavy steroid regime, and gave me some Tramadol (at least that shit helps me sleep like a champ, not sure how effective it is during the day, guess I'll find out) for the pain and already from 2 steroid doses I've noticed the swelling in my hands and wrists going down, so hopefully this is going to be the solution.
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« Reply #20 on: November 07, 2012, 01:07:12 PM »
And it never occurred to anyone to direct you to a specialist until a civilian handled it themselves. I hate doctors.


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« Reply #21 on: November 07, 2012, 02:03:40 PM »
No, my primary care doc set me up with one but the appointment wasn't until the 20th and I just couldn't wait that long so my folks started calling friends.
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« Reply #22 on: December 07, 2012, 05:05:28 PM »
I'm gonna bump this BECAUSE I CAN, but yeah....All my swelling and everything has gone away thanks to my Parent's friend and his steroid treatment. I feel great now, and started a new migraine med, that we are slowly upping in dose to its proven effective level...I'm actually feeling pretty good about my Neurologist at this point after my last conversation/visit with him. He admitted to me that in the past decade he's been at this hospital he's never had anyone go down like I did on that Med, and he was very apologetic about the problems it caused. But yeah, I'm tapering off the steroids (down to 25mg a day from 60) and feeling good....
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« Reply #23 on: December 07, 2012, 05:32:29 PM »
I'm gonna bump this BECAUSE I CAN, but yeah....All my swelling and everything has gone away thanks to my Parent's friend and his steroid treatment. I feel great now, and started a new migraine med, that we are slowly upping in dose to its proven effective level...I'm actually feeling pretty good about my Neurologist at this point after my last conversation/visit with him. He admitted to me that in the past decade he's been at this hospital he's never had anyone go down like I did on that Med, and he was very apologetic about the problems it caused. But yeah, I'm tapering off the steroids (down to 25mg a day from 60) and feeling good....

Steroids...it WAS you that ripped the door off the apartment complex!  I KNEW IT!!

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« Reply #24 on: December 07, 2012, 05:39:23 PM »
Hahahah that fucking door was STILL BROKEN when I left for work this morning....and coincidentally the guy that owns my apartment complex is being very lax about paying his fucking bills to my company for the fucking nightmare of a house/compound he has us working on....so when I get home I'm thinking about kicking that door the rest of the way down and shitting on it and leaving it in front of the office...:lol:
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