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Re: Gaming desktop?
« Reply #25 on: May 16, 2012, 08:29:03 PM »

so something like this? And how doe that work, the SSD just runs all the time, and then the other one will just kick in when it's needed?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227729

Yep.  SSDs are so fast it's nuts.

Wishlist looks sexy, pick a video card and you'll be good to go. Agreed with Kalgorn that 8GB of RAM is fine for now. Tying up all four memory slots also puts additional stress on the northbridge, so it's harder to overclock your processor.

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Re: Gaming desktop?
« Reply #26 on: May 16, 2012, 09:41:06 PM »
The only place you'll notice ssd performance is start up, opening programs, and when a program is pulling a lot of info from the HDD. So you do get that "snappy" feeling. It wont improve most game perfermance or porn performance. In all honesty, a good 7200 rpm hdd is the best choice, imho. SSD are, right now, a luxury item that you get whenyou have the extra cash to do so. Just my opinion on that.

As for your video card. Look, lets be honest, a 6870 is like a second string quarter back. Its good, but its no starter. When you crossfire it, it shows dramatic increases in performance.

If we really want to get down to it, you need to look how it handles heavy graphics on directX 11 games. By itself, with max settings, you can expect 30ish fps. That's a smidgen above stuttering.

We still see a lot of DirectX 9 games right now. That will change shortly. The new consoles will have DirectX 11, and game makers will follow suit shortly after. The first DirectX 11 capable cards are already 3 years old, and show a large share of pc gamers rigs.

Now if you don't want to shell out for the $400 card, that's cool, but I would either step up from the glorified 5850 (6870), to a 6950, or 6970, or I would crossfire it.

Hell, message me and Ill shoot you my phone number. Call me when you're ready to build and Ill talk you through setting up crossfire and even trouble shoot it if any problems arise.

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Re: Gaming desktop?
« Reply #27 on: May 16, 2012, 10:11:38 PM »
Thanks for all that info. Im debating buying everythin but the video card now and waiting till next paycheck and buying a very good one.
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Re: Gaming desktop?
« Reply #28 on: May 16, 2012, 10:44:27 PM »
It's up to you. If I were in your shoes, I would get a 120 GB SSD for OS/main programs and a 2 TB platter drive for storage. Install your OS and anything you use regularly on the SSD. Store all your other shit on the 2 TB.

Just haunt http://www.slickdeals.net for a while. All you really have to do is check the front page once a day, preferably more. There are SSD deals almost daily.

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Re: Gaming desktop?
« Reply #29 on: May 16, 2012, 11:03:38 PM »
BTW -- how big is your monitor? This will really determine how much video card you need.

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Re: Gaming desktop?
« Reply #30 on: May 16, 2012, 11:08:07 PM »
I think 19 inches..its a few years old.
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Re: Gaming desktop?
« Reply #31 on: May 16, 2012, 11:30:20 PM »
Know the resolution? 

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Re: Gaming desktop?
« Reply #32 on: May 16, 2012, 11:47:06 PM »
I can check when i get home. But i keep seeing the ones on newegg for like 120 and i might just oick up a new 1080.

The fun things to spend money on when i decide i dont need a new car :lol:
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Re: Gaming desktop?
« Reply #33 on: May 17, 2012, 12:36:46 AM »
Looking at CPU's damn am i lost, when did Quad Core shit come out, what happened to Pentium II/III. What is this i7 crap....i think im behind the times a bit :lol:

...quick, what year are we in??

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Re: Gaming desktop?
« Reply #34 on: May 17, 2012, 12:40:16 AM »
...quick, what year are we in??

He should be banned from the internet! :lol:

The last time i bought a desktop it was a p3 prossecor. After that it was all cheap laptops so i never kept up with what was going on in the computer world :lol:
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Re: Gaming desktop?
« Reply #35 on: May 17, 2012, 02:42:36 AM »
Ok, updated list

http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=24154727

I think that is every thing minus the graphics card. Came out to about $830 so i can spend maybe $300-350 on a good card right now of there are some in that range. Off to do some research!

Looking at the Geforce  GTX 570.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130687
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Re: Gaming desktop?
« Reply #36 on: May 17, 2012, 04:52:00 AM »
Edit: save yourself some cash and get this one. All that extra memory is a waste unless you plan on running a large resolution, like 2560x1440, 30" monitor size, or multiple displays as one, need another card.

 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130621
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Re: Gaming desktop?
« Reply #37 on: May 17, 2012, 06:10:35 AM »
Edit: save yourself some cash and get this one. All that extra memory is a waste unless you plan on running a large resolution, like 2560x1440, 30" monitor size, or multiple displays as one, need another card.

 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130621

Thanks. Thats why i asked. Ill probally only use a 20 some inch monitor or so.
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Re: Gaming desktop?
« Reply #38 on: May 17, 2012, 06:41:24 AM »
Wow, just came back and my post doesn't even make sense to me. :lmao:

What I was trying to get at was that to use more than 1 gb vram, you need a large display with a high res. No 1920x1080 or 1920x1200 monitor is going to tax the card enough to get through 1gb vram.

It could be used if you ran 3 monitors as one, but you would have to have a second 570 to do that, and I don't suggest adding that level of complexity to your first build.

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Re: Gaming desktop?
« Reply #39 on: May 17, 2012, 09:34:46 AM »
Ok, this is what I am looking at for a final product on the tower. $1100 before taxes, right where i wanted to be!

http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=24154727
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Re: Gaming desktop?
« Reply #40 on: May 17, 2012, 09:55:44 AM »
Fixed your link.

I would look at a different motherboard. That only has one review. Maybe it's just me but I like to buy something that has handful of reviews. I would go with this one ($119) if you plan to Crossfire/SLI or this one ($99 after MIR) if you don't plan to Crossfire/SLI (only one x16 slot).

Also, personally, I would go with Corsair for a PSU. That Cooler Master has good reviews but I don't really trust anything besides Corsair, Seasonic, and higher-end Antecs. This Corsair 750W is $85 after the mail-in rebate.

I really recommend an SSD like I said above, but it's up to you. You may even be able to come out around the same price if you play your cards right. Pick up a 120 GB SSD for ~$100 when you find a deal, and search around on Slickdeals for a cheap 2 TB external harddrive. All you have to do is rip the case off of it and you have a 3.5" platter drive to put in your machine.

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Re: Gaming desktop?
« Reply #41 on: May 17, 2012, 10:04:43 AM »
Just went ahead and made the purchase!
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Re: Gaming desktop?
« Reply #42 on: May 22, 2012, 01:17:06 AM »
Well, everything except the HDD will be here tomorrow, and HDD shipped today so it should be here on thursday! Perfect since it's my day off! Hopefully it isnt TOO hard to put together.
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Re: Gaming desktop?
« Reply #43 on: May 22, 2012, 02:09:21 AM »
Its so easy you'll wonder why so many companies even charge for it.

If I had to pick an area that is even close to difficult, its plugging in the case's wires for sound, usb, etc from the front. You'll have to read your motherboard and case booklet to find out which wires go to which header.

Its not hard, but its not always straight forward either.

If you run into a stumbling block, just take a pic and post it here. It wont be long before someone sees it and helps you. Also google will probabpy provide many results to help you.

Try and keep your wires neat. Its a lot easier said than done, but it helps with air flow through the case.

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Re: Gaming desktop?
« Reply #44 on: May 23, 2012, 08:19:22 AM »
the HDD is out for delivery, so once i wake up it should be here and then the real fun shall start, hopefully I wont fuck it up too much.
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Re: Gaming desktop?
« Reply #45 on: May 23, 2012, 11:02:08 AM »
Pretty hard to fuck it up, really. Watch a couple Youtube videos on how to apply thermal paste to the CPU. I actually completely forgot to tell you to buy thermal paste, but if the Cooler Master N212 is anything like my Hyper N520, it will come with Cooler Master paste and it's actually pretty good. In regards to the application of it, look up the best process for applying paste to your specific processor. A dot in the middle would probably be fine but it's possible the i7 is better with a vertical or horizontal line. I can't remember because it's been a while since I did the paste on my i5.

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Re: Gaming desktop?
« Reply #46 on: May 23, 2012, 04:18:58 PM »
my 212 came with a little tube of paste

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Re: Gaming desktop?
« Reply #47 on: May 23, 2012, 07:17:18 PM »
well that was a short attempt, dont have a star head crew driver small enough to open up the PCU slot on the motherboard, and of course it doesnt come with one.
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Re: Gaming desktop?
« Reply #48 on: May 23, 2012, 07:26:59 PM »
screwdriver?!

You should only need a philips screwdriver. Why would you need a torx?

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Re: Gaming desktop?
« Reply #49 on: May 23, 2012, 07:28:24 PM »
nvm, im an idiot, i figured it out. no more "omg a screw in the way, must remove" mentality for me
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