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GM
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Author Topic: Big 3 Battle: The 60's  (Read 8534 times)

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Big 3 Battle: The 60's
« on: August 09, 2011, 11:49:02 AM »
The 60's saw the birth of muscle cars and pony cars - it was a good time to be a gear head.

Ford kicked off the Pony Car craze with the Mustang, which was an immediate success and quickly became one of the best selling cars of all time. General Motors crated what to many people is the very definition of muscle car with the Pontiac GTO, and Chrysler developed one of the most iconic cars of all time with the Dodge Charger.







Not to take away from Ford's runaway success with the Mustang, but for me it's between GM and Chrysler this time around. Chrysler is still the king of the no-nonsense muscle car in my mind, but when it comes down to innovation and racing spirit, GM had Oldsmobile, which for all intents and purposes was the father of factory performance vehicles and continued to equip their cars with excellent performance options.

So I think I'm gonna vote GM on this one, with Chrysler at a close second.

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Re: Big 3 Battle: The 60's
« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2011, 12:25:09 PM »
GM.  Simply because I can look down the list of cars, and there isn't one I don't like.

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Re: Big 3 Battle: The 60's
« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2011, 12:27:01 PM »
GM, simply for the GTO.

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Re: Big 3 Battle: The 60's
« Reply #3 on: August 09, 2011, 05:32:58 PM »
FUCK YEAH THE PEAK OF AMERICAN PERFORMANCE

Since THAT COWARDIN' CANADIAN had to complain for no reason I can't say anything about AMC

And I don't know what to say about the others. I like them all. Maybe I like GM the most, because the period Corvettes were brilliant, the C3 in particular.

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Re: Big 3 Battle: The 60's
« Reply #4 on: August 09, 2011, 05:36:44 PM »
GM.

The L88 Vette's and Yenko Crapmaros make me drool. After that I'd go with Chrysler.

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Re: Big 3 Battle: The 60's
« Reply #5 on: August 09, 2011, 10:14:18 PM »
FUCK YEAH THE PEAK OF AMERICAN PERFORMANCE

Since THAT COWARDIN' CANADIAN had to complain for no reason I can't say anything about AMC

And I don't know what to say about the others. I like them all. Maybe I like GM the most, because the period Corvettes were brilliant, the C3 in particular.

No one said anything bout Rambler, though.






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Re: Big 3 Battle: The 60's
« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2011, 09:11:29 AM »
FUCK YEAH THE PEAK OF AMERICAN PERFORMANCE

Since THAT COWARDIN' CANADIAN had to complain for no reason I can't say anything about AMC

And I don't know what to say about the others. I like them all. Maybe I like GM the most, because the period Corvettes were brilliant, the C3 in particular.

The contest is about "The Big Three."  Not "The Big Three, and the Medium-sized One." :lol:

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Re: Big 3 Battle: The 60's
« Reply #7 on: August 10, 2011, 02:57:31 PM »
The contest is about "The Big Three."  Not "The Big Three, and the Medium-sized One." :lol:


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Re: Big 3 Battle: The 60's
« Reply #8 on: August 10, 2011, 05:49:21 PM »
The contest is about "The Big Three."  Not "The Big Three, and the Medium-sized One." :lol:

If Nick is making the thread, shouldn't it be made on his terms?

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Re: Big 3 Battle: The 60's
« Reply #9 on: August 10, 2011, 06:02:46 PM »
If Nick is making the thread, shouldn't it be made on his terms?

Kinda how I feel - this isn't like an A-R sanctioned poll or anything. If you want to make a different poll, there's literally nothing to stop you.

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Re: Big 3 Battle: The 60's
« Reply #10 on: August 10, 2011, 06:10:21 PM »
Kinda how I feel - this isn't like an A-R sanctioned poll or anything. If you want to make a different poll, there's literally nothing to stop you.

It's more I've gotten an opportunity to call JD things like "that Syrup Swilling would-be-Frenchman" than anything else

Though I do feel like it would've been better off as "NOTABLE AMERICAN MANUFACTURERS GENERAL POLL"

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Re: Big 3 Battle: The 60's
« Reply #11 on: September 05, 2011, 02:51:49 PM »
Contrary to the OP I'm going to say Ford.  The late hi-po 302's and the 427 FE, Cammer, and side-oiler can and did run the tables on the GM and Chrysler mills.
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Re: Big 3 Battle: The 60's
« Reply #12 on: September 06, 2011, 10:02:52 AM »
Agree with James.
Boss 302, 427 in medium and High Riser forms, The Monster that is the 427 SOHC, the Boss 429.
As for specific cars... "Thunderbolt".
Cobras were sold in Ford dealerships, as were the Shelby mustangs.
Lincoln had the suicide door drop top... that is the definition of cruiser cool.
Mercury brought out the cougar... grab an Eliminator or Gurney edition.
You could order the full boogie 425 hp 427 in a fairlane or a full size ford, not a detuned single 4 bbl hydro cam 335 hp version... but the dual quad solid lift mother.
They had the 390 versions of the fairlane for the guys who wanted fun... they had the 427 and 428 motors for the serious guys.
You want serious? 1968.5 428 CJ mustang. The NHRA somewhat shat themselves. Ford rated the car at 335 hp. NHRA called BS and rerated it at 400 hp. Ford smiled and said "OK".
The nice thing about the fords... you actually saw the fast packages on the street. Sure, they only built 100 Thunderbolts... but they churned out the 427 and 428 cars.
The regular production 425 hp cars were not enough? Go to the dealership and have them drop in 700+ hp of SOHC goodness.
And for those touting the Race Hemi... good luck getting it to run decent on the street.
9 out of 10 times the 440 4 pack would hand one its ass in a street race.
Run that 440 coronet against a 427 fairlane.
The hemi had the image, but failed to deliver on the street... where you didnt have pro race mechanics making sure it was happy.

Chevy? Yea... you could get the copo cars... the Yenco and Nickey cars.
You could get the same thing off of a regular order sheet at a ford dealership.
The Chevy special editions like those bring big money... the fords dont bring as much because they were just regular production cars... not super secret race machines.
GM in general was hobbled by the stupid engine vs weight rule.
While GM was trying to figure out sneaky ways around it... ford was stuffing their biggest engines in anything that would hold them.
Hell, I have seen factory documented 425 HP 427 4 speed 4.11 geared WAGONS.
Both fairlane and Galaxie.
Sorry, I cant see how it is even a contest.


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Re: Big 3 Battle: The 60's
« Reply #13 on: September 07, 2011, 12:18:42 AM »
Had a neighbor years ago that owned a Tor Red 426 Cuda (under 100 original miles, never titled) and it was one of an identical pair he owned.  The low mileage one he had some work done on it while the other was completely stock.  He'd cruise around and if he came upon a heavy hitter he'd tell the guy he was just going home to swap on some slicks.  Said the tactic worked unless the other guy had a Ford with a "big engine".  Then he said it didn't matter which Cuda he was driving...:lol:
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Re: Big 3 Battle: The 60's
« Reply #14 on: September 07, 2011, 12:49:46 AM »
I'm torn, I love the GM cars, but fuck if the Challenger and Charger weren't some nice cars.

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Re: Big 3 Battle: The 60's
« Reply #15 on: September 07, 2011, 11:35:53 AM »
Challenger was 70's brah.

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Re: Big 3 Battle: The 60's
« Reply #16 on: September 07, 2011, 07:26:58 PM »
FYI the corvette isn't one of the 3 big pony cars.

Or a pony car at all.

Its a sports car unless you have the newer ZR1, then its gods gift to men in midlife crisis.

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Re: Big 3 Battle: The 60's
« Reply #17 on: September 07, 2011, 07:38:17 PM »
I love me some Thunderbolt.
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Re: Big 3 Battle: The 60's
« Reply #18 on: September 07, 2011, 08:07:14 PM »
Challenger was 70's brah.

Yeah, but I am so in love with that car that it tears the space time continuum for me :lol:  Went with GM anyway.  They had a lot of good cars.  GTO, Cutlass, Chevelle, Camaro, Firebird just to name a few.

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Re: Big 3 Battle: The 60's
« Reply #19 on: September 08, 2011, 08:54:57 AM »
Much love for the 427 and 428 FEs.