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Newer Dodge Charger 3.5 V6
« on: March 05, 2011, 11:55:32 AM »
Dude was racing in and out of traffic.  So we get to a light together and he's about a fender ahead.  The light goes green and we take off.  I was slowly pulling on him through first and second, then third I started pulling even harder.  I ended up about a car length ahead total.  Of course I got the fly-by.  This car does really well at higher speeds, and is probably about average at lower speeds.  First race I've really had in this car too.  I thought the V6 Charger would have put up a better fight, I actually expected it to win.  I looked up the 1/4 mile times on my car and I get everything from 15.5 to 14.9.  Anyway, I haven't had that much fun in awhile!  Until may of last year, the only vehicle I had was my Cherokee.  That's not racing anything :lol:

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Re: Newer Dodge Charger 3.5 V6
« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2011, 10:22:08 PM »
Hmm, maybe I'm wrong, but I thought V6 Chargers were supposed to be slow?

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Re: Newer Dodge Charger 3.5 V6
« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2011, 10:30:04 PM »
Hmm, maybe I'm wrong, but I thought V6 Chargers were supposed to be slow?

2.7 is weak as shit, the new 3.5 is 250hp and 250lb. ft. so not that great for the weight of the car, but not horrible.

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Re: Newer Dodge Charger 3.5 V6
« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2011, 01:22:55 AM »
Hmm, maybe I'm wrong, but I thought V6 Chargers were supposed to be slow?

Yeah, but I have a 13 year old I6 that's 100,000+ miles.

2.7 is weak as shit, the new 3.5 is 250hp and 250lb. ft. so not that great for the weight of the car, but not horrible.

Yeah, the 2.7 is really shit!  This one was a 3.5

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Re: Newer Dodge Charger 3.5 V6
« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2011, 04:34:51 AM »
2.7 is weak as shit, the new 3.5 is 250hp and 250lb. ft. so not that great for the weight of the car, but not horrible.

Its a low to mid 16 second car in the quarter mile, with mid 80s mph trap speed.   They are very slow and the 2.7 liter V6 is downright unnacceptable. 

Also mileage doesn't make the cars slower, as long as they are well maintained. 
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Re: Newer Dodge Charger 3.5 V6
« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2011, 05:14:29 AM »
Also mileage doesn't make the cars slower, as long as they are well maintained. 

Being the third owner, the car is 13, and has 100,000 miles.  You can't assume the previous owners took good care of the car.  Especially with some of the small things this car shows for issues.

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Re: Newer Dodge Charger 3.5 V6
« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2011, 02:50:56 PM »
I have a 22 year old car with over 200,000 miles, I think its a wee bit faster then when it was in show room condition.   :lol:  And its multicolored.

As long as your I6 shows good compression numbers, does not hesitate, and tune up has been done recently, itll perform just as good as when it was new if not slightly better.
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Re: Newer Dodge Charger 3.5 V6
« Reply #7 on: March 10, 2011, 03:39:36 PM »
I have a 22 year old car with over 200,000 miles, I think its a wee bit faster then when it was in show room condition.

And I believe yours is modified.  I would hope it's faster after modification, regardless of the engine age.

My point is that I've seen a hose bulge, had a mysterious coolant leak, seem to have a new exhaust, and have a broken spring in the suspension.  Now, I don't know if that's just due to the all mighty German engineering or lack of care :lol:  Plus, O2 sensor on bank one needs replaced...whenever it FRIGGIN stops RAINING on my days off!

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Re: Newer Dodge Charger 3.5 V6
« Reply #8 on: March 10, 2011, 08:37:36 PM »
Rubber/plastic parts degrade with age and an exhaust and spring can get rusty?! Nawwww.
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Re: Newer Dodge Charger 3.5 V6
« Reply #9 on: March 11, 2011, 01:10:17 AM »
Rubber/plastic parts degrade with age and an exhaust and spring can get rusty?! Nawwww.

::)  Yeah..in 100,000 miles.  Doubt the exhaust would be that bad in 100,000 miles, especially since it wasn't the back of the exhaust, it was just from the engine to the muffler.  As for the spring, it wasn't rusted through, it was broken.

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Re: Newer Dodge Charger 3.5 V6
« Reply #10 on: March 11, 2011, 12:03:46 PM »
2.7 V6 in a car that size? What the FUCK were they thinking?

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Re: Newer Dodge Charger 3.5 V6
« Reply #11 on: March 11, 2011, 01:07:10 PM »
Because it worked in the LH cars, they figured it would be sufficient enough for the RWD LX platform...too bad they were wrong.
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Re: Newer Dodge Charger 3.5 V6
« Reply #12 on: March 11, 2011, 01:10:17 PM »
Because it worked in the LH cars, they figured it would be sufficient enough for the RWD LX platform...too bad they were wrong.

Well considering they are still putting it in there I am guessing they just don;t give a shit.

2.7 makes 178hp and 190lb ft. in a 4000lb car.
« Last Edit: March 11, 2011, 01:13:51 PM by Mick »

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Re: Newer Dodge Charger 3.5 V6
« Reply #13 on: March 11, 2011, 01:22:51 PM »
My guess, they don't have the funds to develop a replacement for the 2.7L, although the 3.5L SOHC has been replaced with a 3.6L DOHC, the "Pentastar".
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Re: Newer Dodge Charger 3.5 V6
« Reply #14 on: March 11, 2011, 10:48:12 PM »
::)  Yeah..in 100,000 miles.  Doubt the exhaust would be that bad in 100,000 miles, especially since it wasn't the back of the exhaust, it was just from the engine to the muffler.  As for the spring, it wasn't rusted through, it was broken.

Not so much 100k, but 13 years is plenty of time for an exhaust to start to rot. O2 sensor is bad. Imagine that.

  Finally, there was the rear passenger side spring.  Broke at the mounting point. Looks like it is literally rusted through.  Sooooo, looks like there'll be some new suspension stuff coming sooner than I thought since I have to replace a spring already.

Maybe it is, just seems like you're picking some really damn weird reasons to think your car has been poorly maintained.
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Re: Newer Dodge Charger 3.5 V6
« Reply #15 on: March 11, 2011, 10:56:27 PM »
Not so much 100k, but 13 years is plenty of time for an exhaust to start to rot. O2 sensor is bad. Imagine that.

Yeah, however, the back of the exhaust doesn't match the front for wear and tear.  Kind of odd, no?  As for the O2, if you are replacing the exhaust from the engine back to the muffler, you'd think an owner with common sense with do the O2s with it.

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Maybe it is, just seems like you're picking some really damn weird reasons to think your car has been poorly maintained.

Yep..so I didn't update.  It wasn't rusted through, it was surface rust on the broken ends.  Even if it had rusted through, I've had cars go far longer without something like a spring rusting through.

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Re: Newer Dodge Charger 3.5 V6
« Reply #16 on: March 12, 2011, 06:46:07 AM »
So only part of the exhaust has been replaced. Maybe there was an aftermarket one and someone returned it to stock with pieces. Or maybe it bottomed out on something, shit happens. Personally, no, I probably wouldn't put an unneeded $XXX worth of O2s in because I was replacing the exhaust.
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Re: Newer Dodge Charger 3.5 V6
« Reply #17 on: March 12, 2011, 11:09:33 AM »
So only part of the exhaust has been replaced. Maybe there was an aftermarket one and someone returned it to stock with pieces. Or maybe it bottomed out on something, shit happens. Personally, no, I probably wouldn't put an unneeded $XXX worth of O2s in because I was replacing the exhaust.

I got the car around 88,000 miles.  The O2s are recommended at 100,000.  If it was an aftermarket one, then they are kind of silly because the back end of it was still stock :lol:

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Re: Newer Dodge Charger 3.5 V6
« Reply #18 on: March 20, 2011, 12:10:12 PM »
An exhaust system can go bad from just sitting there, too. All that water that drips out of the tail pipe when you first start your car? Well if you only drive short distances, not all of it comes on/gets evaporated. Therefore, rust.

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Re: Newer Dodge Charger 3.5 V6
« Reply #19 on: March 20, 2011, 09:57:28 PM »
An exhaust system can go bad from just sitting there, too. All that water that drips out of the tail pipe when you first start your car? Well if you only drive short distances, not all of it comes on/gets evaporated. Therefore, rust.
It would be the most uneven rust job ever.  Considering it would be the part near the front, the hotter part, that rusted and nothing else.  So the muffler (which would hold the condensation, especially the part of the muffler in which there is a valve that would be shut) and the pipes after the muffler didn't rust.

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Re: Newer Dodge Charger 3.5 V6
« Reply #20 on: March 29, 2011, 01:37:00 PM »
the funny thing about the 3.5 LX cars is that the gas mileage isnt that much better then a hemi LX, just minus the power :lol:
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Re: Newer Dodge Charger 3.5 V6
« Reply #21 on: April 24, 2011, 02:07:21 AM »
This has to be one of the most boring and pointless race posts ever. 

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Re: Newer Dodge Charger 3.5 V6
« Reply #22 on: April 24, 2011, 08:42:35 PM »
This has to be one of the most boring and pointless race posts ever. 

I'm so glad you said this, because that gives me a reason to tell you to shut the fuck up.  If you don't like it, don't reply to it.  Pretty simple.

BTW, how's your garage?  Any fire code violations in this one?  I imagine you still keep the matches by the gasoline just in case you get tired of your current car.  Have you told your wife the truth about the shit you've said on here before?  Or are you still blogging about how some of your friends are racists, and how you can't understand it.

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Re: Newer Dodge Charger 3.5 V6
« Reply #23 on: April 24, 2011, 08:45:42 PM »
Holy shit. :lol:
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Re: Newer Dodge Charger 3.5 V6
« Reply #24 on: April 24, 2011, 09:16:08 PM »
I'm so glad you said this, because that gives me a reason to tell you to shut the fuck up.  If you don't like it, don't reply to it.  Pretty simple.

BTW, how's your garage?  Any fire code violations in this one?  I imagine you still keep the matches by the gasoline just in case you get tired of your current car.  Have you told your wife the truth about the shit you've said on here before?  Or are you still blogging about how some of your friends are racists, and how you can't understand it.