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Mineral Oil Submerged PC
« on: August 04, 2010, 01:54:52 PM »
http://www.pugetsystems.com/mineral-oil-pc.php

Very cool. Check out the V3 as well. V1 was just their first run and was just to see if they could do it efficiently. V2 is much more impressive and V3 is intended for server motherboards (i.e. Dual Xeon in their case).

I would never do it because it would be a big pain in the ass if something broke or you wanted to upgrade, but it sure does look neat. And with the radiator on it to cool it, it keeps temps really low.

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Re: Mineral Oil Submerged PC
« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2010, 02:24:09 PM »
That's a great idea.  What do they do if they need to get it out and work on it, do they just clean it off with hexanes?

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Re: Mineral Oil Submerged PC
« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2010, 03:35:18 PM »
No clue. My coworker asked the same question. I think you just hope you won't have to work on it.

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Re: Mineral Oil Submerged PC
« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2010, 09:23:49 PM »
Can you just use water and put fish in it?

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Re: Mineral Oil Submerged PC
« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2010, 11:29:45 PM »
....I'm suddenly interested in this.

I have several spare aquariums..I bet I could build one.
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Re: Mineral Oil Submerged PC
« Reply #5 on: August 05, 2010, 07:30:34 AM »
Can you just use water and put fish in it?

The issue with water is that it will get murky over time and you'll have to change it out frequently, especially with fish. Mineral oil doesn't break down for a long time.

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Re: Mineral Oil Submerged PC
« Reply #6 on: August 05, 2010, 10:34:32 AM »
The issue with water is that it will get murky over time and you'll have to change it out frequently, especially with fish. Mineral oil doesn't break down for a long time.

I think the real issue is that water will quickly short out and destroy the mobo.. experiments with purified de-ionized water have only had extremely limited success.  :lol:

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Re: Mineral Oil Submerged PC
« Reply #7 on: August 05, 2010, 12:16:01 PM »
I think the real issue is that water will quickly short out and destroy the mobo.. experiments with purified de-ionized water have only had extremely limited success.  :lol:



Well, I hadn't thought about that. :lol:

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Re: Mineral Oil Submerged PC
« Reply #8 on: August 05, 2010, 02:53:27 PM »
Not worth it unless you want it for the "Cool" factor. The oil isn't going to transfer heat well enough for any good overclocks.

I'm partial to dry ice myself.
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Re: Mineral Oil Submerged PC
« Reply #9 on: August 05, 2010, 03:33:55 PM »
Read through that website. With the intercooler installed, they were able to keep the temp of the oil pretty low. Low enough to overclock an old processor to 4.6 Ghz.

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Re: Mineral Oil Submerged PC
« Reply #10 on: August 05, 2010, 04:05:22 PM »
I'd rather see what someone who actually bought it says, not what the site trying to sell it says. At least a proper review from a reputable website.
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Re: Mineral Oil Submerged PC
« Reply #11 on: August 05, 2010, 06:51:05 PM »
Read through that website. With the intercooler installed, they were able to keep the temp of the oil pretty low. Low enough to overclock an old processor to 4.6 Ghz.


May or may not be impressive, depending on the processor.  Pentium 4 processors from the Prescott and Cedar Mill families can do this on water without too much hassle.  The CM processors made it to ~8GHz on LN2.

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Re: Mineral Oil Submerged PC
« Reply #12 on: August 05, 2010, 07:29:00 PM »
May or may not be impressive, depending on the processor.  Pentium 4 processors from the Prescott and Cedar Mill families can do this on water without too much hassle.  The CM processors made it to ~8GHz on LN2.

Intel QX9770. I don't know shit about it other than a quick Google search showing it's a Core 2 Extreme.

However, let me be clear on my opinion on it. There's no reason to do this other than looks or to say you did it. You could get the same performance results out of a properly water cooled system.

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Re: Mineral Oil Submerged PC
« Reply #13 on: August 05, 2010, 08:37:52 PM »
Intel QX9770. I don't know shit about it other than a quick Google search showing it's a Core 2 Extreme.

However, let me be clear on my opinion on it. There's no reason to do this other than looks or to say you did it. You could get the same performance results out of a properly water cooled system.

Anyone who buys a 9770 only buys it because they can say they have one. Fitting. :)

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Re: Mineral Oil Submerged PC
« Reply #14 on: August 06, 2010, 02:25:33 PM »

May or may not be impressive, depending on the processor.  Pentium 4 processors from the Prescott and Cedar Mill families can do this on water without too much hassle.  The CM processors made it to ~8GHz on LN2.

Water? Heck I had a celly 352 that would do that on air. Albeit with a delta strapped to the top, but air none the less. I think that was the one I got to 5ghz on air with... those things are crazy. I know a guy that had a E8600 that did 4.5-4.6ghz on stock volts though.

Intel QX9770. I don't know shit about it other than a quick Google search showing it's a Core 2 Extreme.

However, let me be clear on my opinion on it. There's no reason to do this other than looks or to say you did it. You could get the same performance results out of a properly water cooled system.

A quick look-see on the bot says that Q9770s do 4.6 on around 1.4v or so. Easy WC area for sure.

If I had 600$ to spend on cooling, I think a nice phase change system would be cooler than submersion. Heck you could probably get a small cascade for that price.
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Re: Mineral Oil Submerged PC
« Reply #15 on: August 06, 2010, 05:18:01 PM »
Water? Heck I had a celly 352 that would do that on air. Albeit with a delta strapped to the top, but air none the less. I think that was the one I got to 5ghz on air with... those things are crazy. I know a guy that had a E8600 that did 4.5-4.6ghz on stock volts though.



Not surprising.  My E8500 would do 4.0 with only the slightest bump in voltage on a P35 chipset.

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Re: Mineral Oil Submerged PC
« Reply #16 on: August 06, 2010, 05:36:30 PM »
A quick look-see on the bot says that Q9770s do 4.6 on around 1.4v or so. Easy WC area for sure.

If I had 600$ to spend on cooling, I think a nice phase change system would be cooler than submersion. Heck you could probably get a small cascade for that price.

Again, though, the point is for looks and to say they did it. They weren't going for the most efficient setup. They weren't going for the most powerful setup.

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