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Re: 1995 Eagle Talon TSi AWD
« Reply #50 on: December 27, 2017, 10:54:40 PM »
Really hoping it isn't the bearings. If it's piston slap, something is way out of tolerance because I let it get pretty warm (~170* F) and it was still doing it.

After watching a couple rod knock videos, it doesn't sound anything like that. I'm planning to take the car out for a better drive tomorrow so I'm going to grab a video of the noise.

Also, I can't remember if it did this before I started making all of these changes. That makes it difficult as well.
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Re: 1995 Eagle Talon TSi AWD
« Reply #51 on: January 03, 2018, 10:59:31 PM »
Man, it's cold in the garage. It's still better than working outside but ouch.

I got a brand new Kiggly HLA for $130 shipped so that's installed. I saw the deal pop up and figured I might as well jump on it.

Working on getting the fuel pump out but I ran out of propane for my heater so I gave up. It was only a balmy 42* anyway.

I've got a set of cleaned, flowtested FIC 850cc injectors on the way too.

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Re: 1995 Eagle Talon TSi AWD
« Reply #52 on: January 06, 2018, 06:17:01 PM »
Well, that escalated quickly.

This car is not nearly as clean as my white Eclipse was. That thing was practically pristine, especially underneath. This one not so much.

I'm trying to get the fuel line apart under the car to pull the pump but the connection and line is pretty corroded. Even Kroil couldn't save my ass. The fuel line started twisting and ended up splitting so now I need to run a bulkhead fitting and braided line to the filter.

Surprisingly Amazon has 16' of -6AN + 10 fittings for only $70?? And it's Prime shipping so it will be here Monday.

The only thing they don't have is the bulkhead fitting. Because the 2g AWD fuel sender is a lot shorter, you don't have much room between the sender and the pump. I have to buy STM's super expensive bulkhead fitting.

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Re: 1995 Eagle Talon TSi AWD
« Reply #53 on: January 07, 2018, 07:16:34 AM »
Just can't catch a break can ya? Gotta love corrosion. There's several things I gotta do to the S10 this spring and not looking forward to it due to rust.
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Re: 1995 Eagle Talon TSi AWD
« Reply #54 on: January 07, 2018, 08:46:05 AM »
On the plus side, -6AN fuel line is pretty sweet. :)

I already snapped the line at the pump side, cut the line at the filter side, pulled the sender, and removed the stock pump. It's funny - the PO said he was told that someone installed a Walbro 255 before he owned it.

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Re: 1995 Eagle Talon TSi AWD
« Reply #55 on: January 07, 2018, 10:54:11 AM »
Also, I couldn't deal with the cold anymore. My propane heater works fine if it's not bitter cold but these < 20* temps are rough so I picked up a kerosene heater. I put them both on together in single digits yesterday and my garage went from about 28* to 55* in an hour. Fantastic.


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Re: 1995 Eagle Talon TSi AWD
« Reply #56 on: January 07, 2018, 11:36:30 AM »
I thought about one of those, but with no insulation and open attic it wouldn't do no good.


It was 15 in my garage yesterday when I went to start the GTI. Coldest I've ever started it, fucking direct injection sounded like a diesel for 10 minutes :lol:
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Re: 1995 Eagle Talon TSi AWD
« Reply #57 on: January 07, 2018, 02:47:49 PM »
Ouch. Yeah this type of heater would definitely struggle without insulation. It makes sense that the torpedo heater worked since it's so much more powerful than what you would need for the square footage.

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Re: 1995 Eagle Talon TSi AWD
« Reply #58 on: January 08, 2018, 02:28:57 PM »
Meanwhile we're sweating our rings off down here lol
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Re: 1995 Eagle Talon TSi AWD
« Reply #59 on: January 12, 2018, 12:57:56 AM »
The fuel sender is modified (had to buy a $35 + shipping special bulkhead fitting), Walbro 255 fuel pump is installed, new -6AN fuel line is in, it holds pressure forever, and none of the fittings leak. Success?

I manually ran the fuel pump with ECMLink and let it sit for a while. After about an hour it was still at 30psi.

I still need to install the battery (I put it on my charger - why not), put the car on the ground, and see if it starts.

I do have my new (to me) 850cc injectors but I'm going to wait to install them since the line is pressurized. I figure it's probably better to not change too many things while trying to fix this no/rough start issue. I already installed new cams, springs, lifters, and more - I don't need more variables.

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Re: 1995 Eagle Talon TSi AWD
« Reply #60 on: January 12, 2018, 03:56:49 PM »
This may be hard to believe but it didn't fix the issue. It did catch a lot quicker but it still ran like crap. Oh well - at least I have a solid fuel line.

I used my new fancy spark tester and all cylinders show spark.

I'm in the process of installing the FIC injectors but, go figure, they didn't come with the seal at the head and they don't match the OEM style. I put in an order with ExtremePSI but I'm sure it won't ship until tomorrow at best. I wish I could just drive down there and get them today but there's no way I'm taking two kids with me.

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Re: 1995 Eagle Talon TSi AWD
« Reply #61 on: January 12, 2018, 04:49:51 PM »
Am I going to have to come up there one Saturday to help you straiten the damn thing out? :lol:
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Re: 1995 Eagle Talon TSi AWD
« Reply #62 on: January 12, 2018, 06:54:40 PM »
I wish. I won't even have time this weekend to work on it.

It's just frustrating that it ran fine, sat overnight, and now it hardly runs.

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Re: 1995 Eagle Talon TSi AWD
« Reply #63 on: January 18, 2018, 10:52:08 PM »
New injectors are in - kind of a pain in the ass since the injector doesn't seat into the rail as far as the OEM injectors so they fall out easier. They're installed with no leaks.

Still doesn't run correctly - feels like a misfire but I have a hunch it's running really rich like it's not getting enough air. Pulling a log in ECMLink while starting the car shows the wideband really rich when the car's running. I'm going to do a(nother) boost leak test. It was practically perfect the last time other than a leak at the BOV I replaced. I pulled the BOV and added a little RTV to the gasket. That's it. No reason to suspect an issue.

Oh, I also did another compression test - no issues.
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Re: 1995 Eagle Talon TSi AWD
« Reply #64 on: January 21, 2018, 11:28:08 PM »
Finally made it out to Queens, NY today to pick up the Evo 8 wheels I bought from a New England DSM guy in Maine. Another NEDSM member picked them up for me when he was coming back down from Maine and he lives in Queens. They look damn good especially with the wider tire (235/45 vs 205/55).


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Re: 1995 Eagle Talon TSi AWD
« Reply #65 on: January 22, 2018, 12:13:58 AM »
I like, they look really smart on it.
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Re: 1995 Eagle Talon TSi AWD
« Reply #66 on: January 22, 2018, 10:41:26 AM »
Ouch. Yeah this type of heater would definitely struggle without insulation. It makes sense that the torpedo heater worked since it's so much more powerful than what you would need for the square footage.

I actually have a torpedo heater with my big garage that has no insulation and open attic area and it brings it up to about 50 degrees pretty quick and it holds there great all things considered, easily makes it workable.

Sure insulation would be best and I have full intentions of doing so - however it's still nice knowing I can go out and work in the garage without being miserable if I really want, just have to deal with a bit more in the way of "fumes" the longer you run it.
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Re: 1995 Eagle Talon TSi AWD
« Reply #67 on: January 22, 2018, 11:35:02 PM »
It lives!

One of the NEDSM members mentioned a pre-turbo leak could cause this issue. When I did all of the recent work I replaced the exhaust manifold gasket with a heavy duty copper version. Unfortunately the upper left and upper right manifold studs are broken off (thanks, previous owner) and the copper gaskets really need to be fully torqued down flat because of the exhaust port design.

I swapped it out with a regular ol' Fel-Pro gasket and I got it to start and run properly after playing around with the base idle screw and fuel settings.

I'm hoping to have some time to take it out tomorrow evening. Or, if history repeats itself, it won't turn on again tomorrow.

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Re: 1995 Eagle Talon TSi AWD
« Reply #68 on: January 26, 2018, 05:36:00 PM »
Good to hear you have it running Kal! Hopefully you'll have it squared by spring cause I'd really like to see it against my stock GTI. Id probably loose, but it'll be interesting :lol:
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Re: 1995 Eagle Talon TSi AWD
« Reply #69 on: January 26, 2018, 07:39:59 PM »
It's still having some fuel issues - my tuner thinks it's the injectors I bought. An 850cc should be perfectly fine as a low impedance but he said the car is asking for more fuel than it should and that used injectors are usually hit or miss, especially for idling.

I'm going to swap them back to the stock injectors now that I fixed the exhaust manifold gasket. I'm going to check the fuel pump flow as well while I have the lines disconnected (point it into a bucket, turn on the pump).

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Re: 1995 Eagle Talon TSi AWD
« Reply #70 on: February 09, 2018, 03:23:42 PM »
Major update: Still not running properly. Cause: Still unknown.

I did manage to replace both broken exhaust manifold studs though. I even broke an extractor in the first one.

I swapped the wideband for a new Denso O2 sensor (I was using the wideband to simulate O2 which typically works fine) but I need to cut power to the wideband because I think it's sending a (bad) signal to the ECU and the O2 isn't cycling. We'll see.

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Re: 1995 Eagle Talon TSi AWD
« Reply #71 on: February 11, 2018, 10:26:37 PM »
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Re: 1995 Eagle Talon TSi AWD
« Reply #72 on: February 16, 2018, 05:05:58 PM »
Some JB Weld and it'll be good to go mang!
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Re: 1995 Eagle Talon TSi AWD
« Reply #73 on: February 22, 2018, 06:04:38 PM »
I promise there's still progress being made.

I ordered a pretty good list of parts - mostly new exhaust gaskets.



I pulled the turbo last week and took it and the downpipe for some welding. I had an O2 bung added to the downpipe for my wideband and the wastegate flapper welded open on the turbo exhaust housing for my new wastegate setup.

I also got a teaser shot of my new O2 housing and dump tube - looks like it's ready to go:


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Re: 1995 Eagle Talon TSi AWD
« Reply #74 on: February 23, 2018, 06:40:08 PM »
You know there's rules against posting porn right? :lol:
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