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Re: 1995 Eagle Talon TSi AWD
« Reply #25 on: October 01, 2017, 08:02:45 AM »
Legal, except for the inspection stickers :mrgreen:
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Re: 1995 Eagle Talon TSi AWD
« Reply #26 on: October 01, 2017, 12:49:07 PM »
Bro, I have 10 days. :P

Already scheduled for Saturday.

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Re: 1995 Eagle Talon TSi AWD
« Reply #27 on: October 22, 2017, 09:52:26 PM »
I got the car inspected two weekends ago (I didn't want to tear into it until that was done) and then me, my wife, and youngest son got sick (hand, foot, mouth disease - what a pain) so I lost all motivation to do anything other than work, watch TV, and sleep. Now that we're past that, I've got my motivation back.

I really need to have more patience when working on this car. I broke another couple bolts today. Thankfully, much less important - two of the top bumper bolts and the two that hold the bumper to the driver's fender. I removed the broken bolts from the top section but I have to pull the fenders to see what I can do about those broken bolts.

I'm pulling out all of the extra emissions stuff (evap + EGR) and getting rid of the excess vacuum lines. It's ridiculous how much "extra" stuff there is.

Innovate MTX-L Plus wideband is going in. I've already run the cable into the car. I still need to install the gauge and wire it in. I love that the MTX-L doesn't have the big box that you have to hide somewhere in the car like the LC-2.

I've going to be baking a pair of head lights to take them apart and paint the housings black. I'll be refinishing the lens covers as well.

New Pioneer stereo is installed. Double DIN looks so much nicer than a single with adapter plate.

I ordered a GlowShift 30psi boost/vacuum gauge to replace the old AutoMeter one that's currently installed. The old one doesn't have a dim wire and it uses some weird threaded fitting for the vacuum line instead of a simple barbed fitting. I know GlowShift isn't top notch but I can't justify $100+ to monitor 30psi.

I purchased an Aeromotive AFPR + install kit + filter to rail kit from a guy and that will be here tomorrow. The PO said someone installed a Wally 255 (I haven't confirmed) so I want to get rid of the stock regulator.

Someone removed the washer fluid reservoir. Why?? I picked up a spare from a local guy that always has tons of parts. It's missing one of the pumps so I ordered a new pair from RockAuto.

I think that's it for now. Lots of stuff to do.

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Re: 1995 Eagle Talon TSi AWD
« Reply #28 on: October 23, 2017, 11:13:22 AM »
I got the car inspected two weekends ago (I didn't want to tear into it until that was done) and then me, my wife, and youngest son got sick (hand, foot, mouth disease - what a pain) so I lost all motivation to do anything other than work, watch TV, and sleep. Now that we're past that, I've got my motivation back.

I really need to have more patience when working on this car. I broke another couple bolts today. Thankfully, much less important - two of the top bumper bolts and the two that hold the bumper to the driver's fender. I removed the broken bolts from the top section but I have to pull the fenders to see what I can do about those broken bolts.

I'm pulling out all of the extra emissions stuff (evap + EGR) and getting rid of the excess vacuum lines. It's ridiculous how much "extra" stuff there is.

Innovate MTX-L Plus wideband is going in. I've already run the cable into the car. I still need to install the gauge and wire it in. I love that the MTX-L doesn't have the big box that you have to hide somewhere in the car like the LC-2.

I've going to be baking a pair of head lights to take them apart and paint the housings black. I'll be refinishing the lens covers as well.

New Pioneer stereo is installed. Double DIN looks so much nicer than a single with adapter plate.

I ordered a GlowShift 30psi boost/vacuum gauge to replace the old AutoMeter one that's currently installed. The old one doesn't have a dim wire and it uses some weird threaded fitting for the vacuum line instead of a simple barbed fitting. I know GlowShift isn't top notch but I can't justify $100+ to monitor 30psi.

I purchased an Aeromotive AFPR + install kit + filter to rail kit from a guy and that will be here tomorrow. The PO said someone installed a Wally 255 (I haven't confirmed) so I want to get rid of the stock regulator.

Someone removed the washer fluid reservoir. Why?? I picked up a spare from a local guy that always has tons of parts. It's missing one of the pumps so I ordered a new pair from RockAuto.

I think that's it for now. Lots of stuff to do.

+1 for the Innoviate MTX-L. Put one in my Trans Am. Only thing that sucked was still running the big ass connector through the firewall. Such a better wideband than AEM and in my opinion easier to work with/more modern than the LC2. You definitely can't beat their price either, I see them 129.99 new through a lot of promotions here and there.

Honestly I don't see much wrong with glowshift for the simple stuff. It's hard to mess up a boost gauge especially. I put one in my talon (my current one) back in 2010 to replace an off-reading 10-20 year old VDO gauge. Never had anything wrong with it and it was spot on. I liked its color choices. I'd turn it to a bright color to stand out when I was monitoring it closely in tuning. Otherwise I liked being able to have it red which matched the stock gauges pretty closely. Think it only ran me $40 or something? Worked great.

I have a washer fluid tank with pump from my old NA talon, bottom of tank is broke but pump worked good. Coulda sent you that for free if it would of worked lol.

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Re: 1995 Eagle Talon TSi AWD
« Reply #29 on: October 23, 2017, 12:49:49 PM »
Yeah, I don't know a great way to get the wideband connector in, especially when using it in the front O2 position. Both previous cars used the steering column boot so I stuck with what I know works.

I did find someone online that mentioned pulling the driver's fender and taking the same path as the main wiring harness but saw where the harness connects at the body and I don't know how I would add it.

Thanks for the offer on the pump but they were pretty cheap. It was < $20 (before shipping) for both and I added new radiator hoses to the order so I didn't feel quite so bad about paying for shipping. Even with shipping the pumps were cheaper than a local parts store.

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Re: 1995 Eagle Talon TSi AWD
« Reply #30 on: October 23, 2017, 04:18:27 PM »
Yeah, on that connector. I definitely just used a step drill bit and made a big ass new hole in the firewall on my clean 60k mile TA, no big deal haha. Just stuck a grommet in there and siliconed it full after I ran all wiring through it I wanted.

Not sure about the fender thing at least with DSM's.
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Re: 1995 Eagle Talon TSi AWD
« Reply #31 on: October 27, 2017, 07:43:38 AM »
I really need to have more patience when working on this car. I broke another couple bolts today. Thankfully, much less important - two of the top bumper bolts and the two that hold the bumper to the driver's fender. I removed the broken bolts from the top section but I have to pull the fenders to see what I can do about those broken bolts.

Gotta love the rust belt, always a 3-step process. :lol:
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Re: 1995 Eagle Talon TSi AWD
« Reply #32 on: November 14, 2017, 11:05:54 AM »
Updates:

* Wideband installed (still need to calibrate and confirm ECMlink is seeing it)
* Boost gauge installed
* FPR installed
* -6 AN from fuel filter is installed but leaking at the filter - need to check on that
* EGR block-off is installed
* FIAV bypass is installed
* Evap stuff is removed

It was a pain to pull all of my wires + wideband pigtail + vacuum hose up to the a-pillar (I regret using 14 AWG wire) but it's done and looks pretty good.

I plan to add an oil pressure gauge eventually so I'll need a few more wires for that. However, it will be real easy to get it wired up since I actually took the time to do it right. I bought a pack of terminal strips and a relay. I ran a dedicated fused power wire from the battery to the relay in the car and used the 12v switched source from the radio to trigger the relay. The relay powers a terminal strip that I use for the gauges. I also added a terminal strip just for grounds (ECU pin).

I suppose I could have piggy-backed the wires at the a-pillar so I would have only needed one power, one ground, and one dimmer. Maybe I'm not as smart as I thought.

Something I forgot to mention in this post after buying the car: it has a push button start. My hunch was that something with the ignition system failed so they ran a push button instead of fixing the issue. It seems that's correct. The button takes a 12v fused source from the battery and triggers the 12v signal wire on the starter. I played around with it a bit tonight and the starter relay is not triggering. I checked voltage at the relay connector with the key on and I don't have voltage on any of the pins. I suspect it's an ignition switch issue but I don't have it in me to dig into it any further at this point. I just want to get the car running at this point.

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Re: 1995 Eagle Talon TSi AWD
« Reply #33 on: November 18, 2017, 09:03:52 PM »
The car starts and runs so that's good. I still need to set base timing (not even sure how to do it on these 2gs), set base fuel pressure on the FPR, and give it a base tune.

I'm working on swapping out the accessory belts right now. Since I bought the car, the power steering belt has squealed like a dying animal after a cold start. However, I couldn't get the belt off because there was no adjustment left to loosen the tension. I ended up cutting it off and, when comparing it to the replacement, it's significantly shorter. But the replacement? Too long...

This car has a swapped motor from JDM Engine Depot. Thankfully, the internet is filled with info and other people that have this same issue. I guess these JDM motors are typically from an older Evo which uses a different power steering bracket that sits the pump closer to the motor. Two options: 1) get a stock 7-bolt bracket or 2) order the correct belt which you can't get locally. Thankfully it's Amazon to the rescue for the replacement belt.

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Re: 1995 Eagle Talon TSi AWD
« Reply #34 on: November 19, 2017, 08:37:40 PM »
Still waiting on the P/S belt (it will be here tomorrow).

However, I got the washer fluid tank and new fluid pumps installed. The tank I picked up came from a spyder - no rear wiper. It didn't occur to me when I bought it from the guy. Since it didn't have the hole for the rear fluid pump, I took a 3/4" spade bit and made my own. Thankfully the pumps come with new grommets/screens for each pump.

I haven't put in any fluid just yet but both pumps activate properly so I don't have any concerns.

One issue: the rear wiper doesn't function. I did a quick test and I don't think the plug at the pump is getting any power. I need to figure out where the rear wiper relay is.

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Re: 1995 Eagle Talon TSi AWD
« Reply #35 on: November 20, 2017, 11:28:15 PM »
Hey, guess what. The new belt fits beautifully.

I'm not even going to make an effort at the A/C belt. I don't see anything visually wrong with it and the A/C doesn't work anyway (probably low on refrigerant) but it looks like a nightmare to replace so no thanks.

I buttoned up a few things (replaced/fixed some vacuum lines, put some panels back in, etc) and it should be ready to go. I'm going to get it running tomorrow night, set base fuel pressure, bleed the coolant (such a pain), and hopefully take it at least around the block.

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Re: 1995 Eagle Talon TSi AWD
« Reply #36 on: November 23, 2017, 05:47:46 PM »
Looks like it's coming along! Amazing the time all the nit-picky shit can consume.
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Re: 1995 Eagle Talon TSi AWD
« Reply #37 on: December 03, 2017, 02:19:18 PM »
Well, crap. The exhaust valve stem seals for cylinder #3 are toast.






I guess I'm pulling the head. Justin Whitesell (basically a turbo guru) recommended a guy named Brian Savini in western PA that runs a machine shop and is very experienced with DSMs so I'll send it to him for a full clean and repair.

Now's the time to do a full timing belt job too so I'll get that on order.

I'm also thinking I should just get the lifters swapped out for the 3g revised version and install a set of cams.

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Re: 1995 Eagle Talon TSi AWD
« Reply #38 on: December 03, 2017, 10:27:56 PM »
On the other side of things, have you heard of Corroseal? Man, this stuff is cool.

I think someone left the sun roof open during the rain because the shifter assembly was really rusty. I pulled it, took it apart, wire brush to remove the loose stuff, two coats of Corroseal, and some spray paint (oil rubbed bronze - might as well use it since it's just sitting in my cabinet). It will be reinstalled with new solid bushings.

You can see how rusty it is originally:



First fresh coat of Corroseal:



First coat is dry:



Second coat is dry:



Painted and reassembled:


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Re: 1995 Eagle Talon TSi AWD
« Reply #39 on: December 05, 2017, 10:34:26 AM »
I hadn't considered it before but it's actually not a huge deal (and it's a lot cheaper) to change out the valve stem seals with the head still installed.

Since the cams are coming out, now's the time to upgrade. I ordered a pair of Brian Crower 272s, revised lifters, Brian Crower valve springs, valve stem seals, and parts to do a full timing job.

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Re: 1995 Eagle Talon TSi AWD
« Reply #40 on: December 06, 2017, 12:00:56 AM »
I've never heard of Corroseal. What made you choose it over any of the other rust convertors on the market? Looks like it worked well.

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Re: 1995 Eagle Talon TSi AWD
« Reply #41 on: December 06, 2017, 08:32:09 AM »
Strictly Amazon reviews.

However, someone on New England DSM gave some info:

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Rust converter at best slows the process down but doesn't stop it. Sure you can convert the surface rust but eventually it will come back. Solutions with tannic acid seem to work the best so far.

He's a pretty smart guy (electrical engineer) so I believe him.

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