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1995 Eagle Talon TSi AWD
« on: September 10, 2017, 10:01:28 PM »
Crap, I bought another one. ;D

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Re: 1995 Eagle Talon TSi AWD
« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2017, 01:24:19 PM »
Alright, actual info + more pictures.

I saw it pop up on Facebook and couldn't pass up a Talon + kona blue paint.

The car is only lightly (and relatively poorly) modded. It still has cruise (not sure if it's working), A/C (doesn't work but components are all there), and even the stupid boost control solenoid.

The passenger shock tower was rotted out so the PO got a good one from a junk yard, cut out the bad one, and had a friend weld in the good one. It looks surprisingly good. The passenger front fender has literally split apart from rust (there's blue tape + packing tape over it). But he took a good fender from one of his parts cars and threw that in the deal.

* JDM Engine Depot replacement engine (unknown mileage)
* Megan Racing turbo-back
* High flow cat
* Walbro 255 pump (probably?)
* T28 turbo
* Tial wastegate
* HKS SSQ BOV

Lesson for today, boys and girls: do a compression test before you buy a car. Cylinders 2-4 were ~180 but cylinder 1 was ~135. The guy had no idea (seemed genuine) but it drives well so no reason not to send it. However, I was able to use this in negotiating a much lower price.

The valve cover appears to leak like a sieve into 3 of the spark plug wells and also a few spots on the outside of the VC. Hatch struts are junk (go figure). Driver's outside door handle is broken. The hood has a couple really rough spots (2 spots where the hood is pushed up, also looks like something clawed at it near the windshield). It could use some brakes all around - there's some vibration when braking. It really needs either a stock fuel pump (why waste the effort) or ECMLink (yes).

It needs the trash cleaned out of it too.











« Last Edit: September 11, 2017, 02:07:46 PM by Kalgorn »

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Re: 1995 Eagle Talon TSi AWD
« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2017, 07:18:17 PM »
LOL why?
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Re: 1995 Eagle Talon TSi AWD
« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2017, 08:15:28 PM »
I wanted a 2g Talon something fierce but they're pretty difficult to find unless you're willing to drive hours upon hours and hope it's worth it.

This kona blue is my favorite DSM color. It was an option only for 2g Talons and it's very rare.

Oh, and DSM 4 lyfe.

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Re: 1995 Eagle Talon TSi AWD
« Reply #4 on: September 11, 2017, 08:16:54 PM »
Next minute - DSM collector... LOL

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Re: 1995 Eagle Talon TSi AWD
« Reply #5 on: September 11, 2017, 10:51:41 PM »

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Re: 1995 Eagle Talon TSi AWD
« Reply #6 on: September 11, 2017, 11:06:50 PM »
Did some research today and learned that "early" 95 cars (production date before Nov 1994) have large, vented rear brakes. From what I can tell, mine checks out (Oct 1994 production date). I didn't measure anything but I compared to my Eclipse right next to it (Nov 1994 production date) and the Talon's rotors are definitely thicker/vented and it looks like someone threw regular pads on which aren't using the entire rotor surface.

I've got a couple orders in:

* 38mm wastegate gasket (double stacked and blown... wtf)
* Wagner ThermoQuiet brake pads (Thanks, Rockauto warehouse clearance! < $7/pair for fronts and rears)
* Centric rotors (I believe they're e-coated to prevent corrosion)
* Hatch struts
* Fuel filter
* NGK BPR6ES spark plugs
* Valve cover gasket
* Driver's outside door handle

I cleaned out all of the trash the PO left in the car and gave it a full vacuum. I pulled out more than 10 soda/water bottles - all but 1 still had liquid. There was other various trash throughout the car including like 30 pennies. However, I did find a surprise driver's floor mat in the hatch. I also found that it does not have a spare tire but the lug wrench kit + jack are still there.

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Re: 1995 Eagle Talon TSi AWD
« Reply #7 on: September 12, 2017, 10:00:56 PM »
Got a pretty good deal on ECMLink + full speed density package. I won't be setting up speed density just yet but it will be nice to have everything.

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Re: 1995 Eagle Talon TSi AWD
« Reply #8 on: September 13, 2017, 04:38:56 PM »
You're giving me this one right? ;D
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Re: 1995 Eagle Talon TSi AWD
« Reply #9 on: September 13, 2017, 04:44:47 PM »
You can have the white one for $4,500 or an easy payment plan of $4,500/month for 1 month(s).

:)

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Re: 1995 Eagle Talon TSi AWD
« Reply #10 on: September 13, 2017, 04:57:23 PM »
You can have the white one for $4,500 or an easy payment plan of $4,500/month for 1 month(s).

:)

Uh oh, somebody likes the blue one better :lol:

I need to get my ass over there one Saturday to check them out; always have had a soft spot for those gen cars.
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Re: 1995 Eagle Talon TSi AWD
« Reply #11 on: September 13, 2017, 06:01:49 PM »
It's the blue + Talon. I really wanted a Talon but they're difficult to find not beat to shit or rotted out.

Where are you living these days?

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Re: 1995 Eagle Talon TSi AWD
« Reply #12 on: September 13, 2017, 06:45:20 PM »
Fulton county (McConnellsburg) so about 2.5hrs from Allentown, which I think is where you said you were located.
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Re: 1995 Eagle Talon TSi AWD
« Reply #13 on: September 13, 2017, 06:46:43 PM »
Yup, Allentown. We'll have to plan a day to at least get together and have a couple beers.

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Re: 1995 Eagle Talon TSi AWD
« Reply #14 on: September 14, 2017, 05:21:03 PM »
Delta you appear to be a hour west of me and kalgorn is about 2 hours northeast of me.

I am in between gettysburg and waynesboro.

Kalgorn, is that really your tattoo? Also good luck fixing the new blue one up.

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Re: 1995 Eagle Talon TSi AWD
« Reply #15 on: September 14, 2017, 06:01:38 PM »
:lol: No I definitely don't have that tattoo. Just a quick "mitsubishi tattoo" search.

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Re: 1995 Eagle Talon TSi AWD
« Reply #16 on: September 17, 2017, 05:56:22 PM »
I didn't get nearly as much accomplished today as I wanted to. I've got a pile of parts ready but just having trouble finding the time. I was also dealing with my oldest son playing outside, answering all of this stupid questions, then he had to poop, then I had to refill his water bucket 5 times (playing with a sprayer), then he had to pee.

I replaced the hatch struts, driver's door handle (what a pain in the ass), put it up on stands with all wheels pulled, and disassembled the front passenger brakes.

The brakes were so much fun. I've never had pads frozen to the caliper. I literally beat the shit out of them with a hammer and also pounded a screwdriver between the pad/rotor surface to break them loose. Then I snapped off a caliper bracket bolt. Getting the rotor removed was quite frustrating as well. I beat the shit out of that with a hammer and 2 lb mallet but it was stuck fast. Tried the ol' M8x1.25 bolt trick but it just destroyed the rotor threads. Eventually the hammering was enough to pop it loose.

I'm hoping to get the car inspection-ready by this weekend and get it on the road as soon as possible. If I work on it at night after the kids are asleep, I should be able to get more done in less time.

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Re: 1995 Eagle Talon TSi AWD
« Reply #17 on: September 18, 2017, 10:48:09 PM »
As predicted, I got more done without a kid running around and bothering me. Brakes are almost done. All four corners have been taken apart (had a couple more frozen pads, no broken bolts this time though). I've got the new rotors installed except for the front passenger because I have to get a new caliper bracket and bolt.

Still a pretty good list of things to do until it's ready to go.

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Re: 1995 Eagle Talon TSi AWD
« Reply #18 on: September 20, 2017, 11:21:13 PM »
Stupid sway bar end links...

I have to replace the front passenger strut but I can't get the the end link. It has literally become one with the bottom strut mount. Someone was also kind enough to pre-strip the hex section on the end link to keep it from spinning. I'm in the process of cutting it off but my Dremel battery wasn't fully charged. It doesn't last a real long time and I'm sick of charging it for 2 minutes and cutting for 20 seconds.

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Re: 1995 Eagle Talon TSi AWD
« Reply #19 on: September 21, 2017, 11:17:25 PM »
Progress is slow. I broke another damn bolt due to my impatience. And this one will be harder to replace. The long through bolt for the bottom of the bottom strut mount was frozen in the rubber bushing and the nut was frozen to the bolt. I did spray it with some PB Blaster but patience is not something I have much of. I ended up snapping off the end of the bolt. Which was even more dumb because the bolt was still frozen to the rubber bushing. I took lots of PB Blaster, time, and small turns back and forth to the rest of it out in one piece.

Finally I got the strut out but of course the strut nut is frozen near the top of the threads, the strut just spinning (crookedly, I might add...), and that stupid little flat section at the top won't hold even with vice grips. I took my angle grinder right down the middle of the threads and split the bolt. Oh, but the metal sleeve on the strut is frozen.

Slowly, slowly, slowly...

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Re: 1995 Eagle Talon TSi AWD
« Reply #20 on: September 22, 2017, 07:04:13 AM »
A torch kit might be your friend it seems :lol:
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Re: 1995 Eagle Talon TSi AWD
« Reply #21 on: September 22, 2017, 09:11:29 AM »
Yeah. I do have a propane torch - I should probably get used to using it. I don't know if it gets quite hot enough though.

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Re: 1995 Eagle Talon TSi AWD
« Reply #22 on: September 22, 2017, 09:29:41 AM »
Yeah. I do have a propane torch - I should probably get used to using it. I don't know if it gets quite hot enough though.

Nope. A small acetylene kit is the way to go. I borrow one from work to do anything on my S10 or the Jeep (NY truck).
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Re: 1995 Eagle Talon TSi AWD
« Reply #23 on: September 24, 2017, 10:04:26 PM »
So much progress. I've worked on this thing for a couple hours a day for the last 7 out of 8 days.

I'm just waiting on my JNZ order with the replacement caliper bracket bolt and strut fork bolt/nut. Once I have them, I can put the car back on the ground, get it registered, and get it inspected.

When I pulled the valve cover, it became very obvious why it leaks so much oil. That gasket was CRISPY. I didn't see much RTV either (cam caps, half moon). New BPR6ES plugs went in gapped at .028".

There are still plenty of small things to do but less critical and definitely not needed to get it on the road. The JNZ order has a FIAV bypass kit and EGR block off included. I need to order a wideband and get that installed before I can tune it. I bought a non-cruise cable from a guy who screwed up the shipping address and supposedly re-shipped it but I'll believe it when it shows up. I also bought a AFPR from a guy who hardly responds to messages and, when he does, he's not very helpful.

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Re: 1995 Eagle Talon TSi AWD
« Reply #24 on: September 30, 2017, 09:17:55 PM »
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